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	<title>Comments on: HLWW class sizes to increase</title>
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		<title>By: Privacy</title>
		<link>http://www.hjblogs.com/hlww-class-size-to-increase-if-mail-in-ballot-not-okd/comment-page-1/#comment-3997</link>
		<dc:creator>Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Article. Thanks for the read!</description>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.hjblogs.com/hlww-class-size-to-increase-if-mail-in-ballot-not-okd/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received some information over the weekend which leads me to believe that you might be correct.  It is possible I was mis-informed originally.  My appologies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received some information over the weekend which leads me to believe that you might be correct.  It is possible I was mis-informed originally.  My appologies</p>
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		<title>By: HikingStick</title>
		<link>http://www.hjblogs.com/hlww-class-size-to-increase-if-mail-in-ballot-not-okd/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>HikingStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that only some funding was tied to the overall number of eligible students in the district and that most funding was tied to the number of enrolled students (and that even attendance could impact those figures).  Is my information not correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that only some funding was tied to the overall number of eligible students in the district and that most funding was tied to the number of enrolled students (and that even attendance could impact those figures).  Is my information not correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.hjblogs.com/hlww-class-size-to-increase-if-mail-in-ballot-not-okd/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parent in support:

I have tried to respond on this twice before but for some reason it doesn&#039;t show up.  I will try one last time.

Private schools and home schooled children should not be included in the open enrollment figure.  These students do not take their funding with them to the private schools.  The funds that are received from the state (and all funding sources)stay with the public school district.  This is a double bonus for the public schools.  All of the funding with a tiny percentage of the expense. (The school district supplies a few minor services  for the private schools.)

Holy Trinity has around 150 students, St. James has about 50.  I have no idea how many are home schooled in the district.

HLWW is very fortunate to have private schools absorbing the expense for all of those children. Imagine the shape we would be in if we had to educate all of them also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parent in support:</p>
<p>I have tried to respond on this twice before but for some reason it doesn&#8217;t show up.  I will try one last time.</p>
<p>Private schools and home schooled children should not be included in the open enrollment figure.  These students do not take their funding with them to the private schools.  The funds that are received from the state (and all funding sources)stay with the public school district.  This is a double bonus for the public schools.  All of the funding with a tiny percentage of the expense. (The school district supplies a few minor services  for the private schools.)</p>
<p>Holy Trinity has around 150 students, St. James has about 50.  I have no idea how many are home schooled in the district.</p>
<p>HLWW is very fortunate to have private schools absorbing the expense for all of those children. Imagine the shape we would be in if we had to educate all of them also.</p>
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		<title>By: HikingStick</title>
		<link>http://www.hjblogs.com/hlww-class-size-to-increase-if-mail-in-ballot-not-okd/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>HikingStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe building a new school with a capacity for only 500 students (if that is the actual capacity) without pre-planning an expansion zone was a big mistake.  More and more people are moving to exurban communities like Winsted, especially families with young children.  It&#039;s not conjecture--it&#039;s a national trend, and thus far, higher gas prices have not affected that trend.

As to school quality issues, my family and I have been pleased with the quality of the teachers AND the quality of the facilities (with perhaps one exception--the lack of adequate theater/auditorium seating).  I was recently at a the HLWW elementary school in Winsted to see the 4th-5th grade play.  A platform was erected and used for the performers and seating was very limited.  I would be more than willing to support a levy to punch through one wall of the gym and add a proper stage (something with clear one-time costs and no ambiguity as to where the funding will go), but am less comfortable with voting in favor of a levy to imrpove general funding levels.

That said, I do think were are on the brink of a ciris here, but not because of the possibility that the current levey proposal will not be approved.  Home values are dropping for the first time.  Previously, home values have either held their ground through tough times or have managed to increase.  You can be sure that homeowners will appeal their taxable basis for property taxes, and that will reduce overall tax revenue.  If the drop in housing prices continues for another year or two, many school districts may find their presumed funding levels even lower.  This may force them to ask for even more special funding measures.  We don&#039;t want to end up like the Chicago area, where property taxes on a modest two or three bedroom home can be $6,000 per year, even if you go almost two hours out of the city. A continued decline in housing values will force governments to collect more taxes per parcel to offst the losses due to decreased property values.

Like many families in a financial press, we need to decide, as a community, what our priorities are in our schools and communities and then we need to make some tough decisions.  Will we need to cut some things that are popular and desireable? Probably, but I would rather cut the nice things that we want to have than those things that we really need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe building a new school with a capacity for only 500 students (if that is the actual capacity) without pre-planning an expansion zone was a big mistake.  More and more people are moving to exurban communities like Winsted, especially families with young children.  It&#8217;s not conjecture&#8211;it&#8217;s a national trend, and thus far, higher gas prices have not affected that trend.</p>
<p>As to school quality issues, my family and I have been pleased with the quality of the teachers AND the quality of the facilities (with perhaps one exception&#8211;the lack of adequate theater/auditorium seating).  I was recently at a the HLWW elementary school in Winsted to see the 4th-5th grade play.  A platform was erected and used for the performers and seating was very limited.  I would be more than willing to support a levy to punch through one wall of the gym and add a proper stage (something with clear one-time costs and no ambiguity as to where the funding will go), but am less comfortable with voting in favor of a levy to imrpove general funding levels.</p>
<p>That said, I do think were are on the brink of a ciris here, but not because of the possibility that the current levey proposal will not be approved.  Home values are dropping for the first time.  Previously, home values have either held their ground through tough times or have managed to increase.  You can be sure that homeowners will appeal their taxable basis for property taxes, and that will reduce overall tax revenue.  If the drop in housing prices continues for another year or two, many school districts may find their presumed funding levels even lower.  This may force them to ask for even more special funding measures.  We don&#8217;t want to end up like the Chicago area, where property taxes on a modest two or three bedroom home can be $6,000 per year, even if you go almost two hours out of the city. A continued decline in housing values will force governments to collect more taxes per parcel to offst the losses due to decreased property values.</p>
<p>Like many families in a financial press, we need to decide, as a community, what our priorities are in our schools and communities and then we need to make some tough decisions.  Will we need to cut some things that are popular and desireable? Probably, but I would rather cut the nice things that we want to have than those things that we really need.</p>
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		<title>By: parent in support</title>
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		<dc:creator>parent in support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids open enroll for many reasons.  We reside in a district with a strong catholic school, the district does not offer some of the advanced placement classes that some other districts offer among various other reasons.  The district loses 1.2 million due to open enrollment and I believe that kids could come back with the new school.

If you ask any of the administration you would find out that the building was intentionally built to be able to add on a middle school some day if they wanted on the north end where the parking lot is.  They would only need to add on classroom space since they would share administration offices, lunch room etc. so not a lot of room would be needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids open enroll for many reasons.  We reside in a district with a strong catholic school, the district does not offer some of the advanced placement classes that some other districts offer among various other reasons.  The district loses 1.2 million due to open enrollment and I believe that kids could come back with the new school.</p>
<p>If you ask any of the administration you would find out that the building was intentionally built to be able to add on a middle school some day if they wanted on the north end where the parking lot is.  They would only need to add on classroom space since they would share administration offices, lunch room etc. so not a lot of room would be needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry HLWW Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry HLWW Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes mail in elections do happen all the time, but why do they REQUIRE that you have a witness. This person does bring up a valid point, but if it is found illegal then wouldn&#039;t the entire election be thrown out and then the district could be in trouble? 

To &quot;For the Teachers&quot;, if the teachers are doing such a great job, then why are over 200 kids open-enrolling out of the district, with many attending Watertown-Mayer and Dassel-Cokato? How much money is the district losing to open enrollment, isn&#039;t it like a million dollars a year?

It is not just because of &quot;too few opportunities&quot; for the students, it is also because of the way that the teachers perform their jobs, and the condition of the buildings. Just because the district built a new school doesn&#039;t really mean those kids are going to come back. 

The district should be proud of itself no doubt for building the new school, which is not an easy feat for any district. But what got built, isn&#039;t it a 500 student school? There is some room for more students but say one day the district needs to add on to the building and they really don&#039;t have all that much room to do so. To the north of the building, you have your bus garage, to the south, your have part of the parking lot, to the west you have county road 6, and finally to the east you have the football and sports complex. Unless they want to squeeze the addition up against it...

And like Deb said, with gas and fuel prices being out of this world, people who do commute to the metro and other longer drives will not want to put up with that, some will move and take their kids and their student&#039;s enrollment money for the district away too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes mail in elections do happen all the time, but why do they REQUIRE that you have a witness. This person does bring up a valid point, but if it is found illegal then wouldn&#8217;t the entire election be thrown out and then the district could be in trouble? </p>
<p>To &#8220;For the Teachers&#8221;, if the teachers are doing such a great job, then why are over 200 kids open-enrolling out of the district, with many attending Watertown-Mayer and Dassel-Cokato? How much money is the district losing to open enrollment, isn&#8217;t it like a million dollars a year?</p>
<p>It is not just because of &#8220;too few opportunities&#8221; for the students, it is also because of the way that the teachers perform their jobs, and the condition of the buildings. Just because the district built a new school doesn&#8217;t really mean those kids are going to come back. </p>
<p>The district should be proud of itself no doubt for building the new school, which is not an easy feat for any district. But what got built, isn&#8217;t it a 500 student school? There is some room for more students but say one day the district needs to add on to the building and they really don&#8217;t have all that much room to do so. To the north of the building, you have your bus garage, to the south, your have part of the parking lot, to the west you have county road 6, and finally to the east you have the football and sports complex. Unless they want to squeeze the addition up against it&#8230;</p>
<p>And like Deb said, with gas and fuel prices being out of this world, people who do commute to the metro and other longer drives will not want to put up with that, some will move and take their kids and their student&#8217;s enrollment money for the district away too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: parent in support</title>
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		<dc:creator>parent in support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail in elections happen all the time and there is not anything illegal about them.   The reason there are so many envelopes included with your ballot is to protect your identity. The #2 envelope with the voter information on it is checked against the voter roster on election day.  If accepted then it will be opened and the secrecy envelope removed; and then not opened until the secrecy envelopes are separate from envelope #2 thus keeping the confidentially of each vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail in elections happen all the time and there is not anything illegal about them.   The reason there are so many envelopes included with your ballot is to protect your identity. The #2 envelope with the voter information on it is checked against the voter roster on election day.  If accepted then it will be opened and the secrecy envelope removed; and then not opened until the secrecy envelopes are separate from envelope #2 thus keeping the confidentially of each vote.</p>
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		<title>By: HikingStick</title>
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		<dc:creator>HikingStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t from winsted, I believe you raise a valid concern, but it may be too late to do anything for the current ballot.  In order to support any sort of absentee balloting, must not something be done to verify that the person submitting it is a registered voter? I certainly don&#039;t want anyone recording my name alongside my vote, but I have greater concern that the outcome of this special ballot will not be as I would like it to be if I (or others like me) hold my vote (their votes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t from winsted, I believe you raise a valid concern, but it may be too late to do anything for the current ballot.  In order to support any sort of absentee balloting, must not something be done to verify that the person submitting it is a registered voter? I certainly don&#8217;t want anyone recording my name alongside my vote, but I have greater concern that the outcome of this special ballot will not be as I would like it to be if I (or others like me) hold my vote (their votes).</p>
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		<title>By: t from winsted</title>
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		<dc:creator>t from winsted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is about the upcoming vote that is in the mail.  My question is this.  Voting in this country is a private thing, it is no one elses business how anyone votes on anything, in fact is it leagal for you the HLWW to ask for your name, and a witness to your vote.  I think this is bordering on illegal, and I think it is a ploy to get this passed.  Too many people that would vote against it will not take the time to find a witness.  They should check and see if this is even a legal way of voting.  I have been doing some research so far the information I have found says voting is a private matter and it is no ones business how you vote on anything.  Thus curtains in voting booths.  I think they better rethink this because if it is found to be a illegal way of voting (asking for names and witnesses to your vote) they may be opening another can of worms. 
Also cuts can be made in so many places where it doesn&#039;t affect education.,  Sports for instance.  Sure it is nice to have sports, but face it if it is too expensive than cut it back it is not a neccessary tool for education, and they focus way too much on them instead of education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is about the upcoming vote that is in the mail.  My question is this.  Voting in this country is a private thing, it is no one elses business how anyone votes on anything, in fact is it leagal for you the HLWW to ask for your name, and a witness to your vote.  I think this is bordering on illegal, and I think it is a ploy to get this passed.  Too many people that would vote against it will not take the time to find a witness.  They should check and see if this is even a legal way of voting.  I have been doing some research so far the information I have found says voting is a private matter and it is no ones business how you vote on anything.  Thus curtains in voting booths.  I think they better rethink this because if it is found to be a illegal way of voting (asking for names and witnesses to your vote) they may be opening another can of worms.<br />
Also cuts can be made in so many places where it doesn&#8217;t affect education.,  Sports for instance.  Sure it is nice to have sports, but face it if it is too expensive than cut it back it is not a neccessary tool for education, and they focus way too much on them instead of education.</p>
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