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		<title>By: A Tired DC Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Tired DC Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so here I go probably putting my foot in my mouth, but why is it that we in this country and this community in particular seem so bent on making someone better or worse than another?

One of our most basic freedoms is our freedom of speech.  Yes, we are free to speak our minds.  We are not however free from being offended.  With that great freedom comes responsibility for ones actions and words.  Remember as you are attacking others for disagreeing with you, they are also human beings.

I applaud both sides in the vote on the levy.  The issue I have is with those who could vote but didn't.  It is not only your priviledge to vote, it is your civic duty.  Gee, I actually learned that one in ninth grade civics from Mr. Keith.  How bout that?  I personally am not as interested in how someone votes as I am in that they vote.  I may not agree with the outcome of a vote, but if you didn't vote and then complain, shut up.  You have given up your true ability to complain because you didn't voice your opinion with your vote.  You wasted it.

We all know the schools are losing funding and that there are many things in our schools that are wrong.  Complaining about it won't solve the problem.  If we are not going to vote for a levy, then we must figure out how to fund our schools other ways.

People, please remember, your school board, state and federal senators and representatives, judges, and presidents work for you, not the other way around.

We talk so much about when a teacher does a poor job of how we get rid of them.  How about when a politician does a poor job?  We continue to allow them to keep their jobs and continue to do a poor job.  We need to develop the attitude of you have this term in office to do the job.  If you do, we will re-elect you.  If not, we will fire you and hire someone else.  I personally don't care which political party you are, I care what kind of job will be done for us, not to us.

I've said enough now and will probably be slammed for saying it.  Have a blessed and wonderful holiday season!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so here I go probably putting my foot in my mouth, but why is it that we in this country and this community in particular seem so bent on making someone better or worse than another?</p>
<p>One of our most basic freedoms is our freedom of speech.  Yes, we are free to speak our minds.  We are not however free from being offended.  With that great freedom comes responsibility for ones actions and words.  Remember as you are attacking others for disagreeing with you, they are also human beings.</p>
<p>I applaud both sides in the vote on the levy.  The issue I have is with those who could vote but didn&#8217;t.  It is not only your priviledge to vote, it is your civic duty.  Gee, I actually learned that one in ninth grade civics from Mr. Keith.  How bout that?  I personally am not as interested in how someone votes as I am in that they vote.  I may not agree with the outcome of a vote, but if you didn&#8217;t vote and then complain, shut up.  You have given up your true ability to complain because you didn&#8217;t voice your opinion with your vote.  You wasted it.</p>
<p>We all know the schools are losing funding and that there are many things in our schools that are wrong.  Complaining about it won&#8217;t solve the problem.  If we are not going to vote for a levy, then we must figure out how to fund our schools other ways.</p>
<p>People, please remember, your school board, state and federal senators and representatives, judges, and presidents work for you, not the other way around.</p>
<p>We talk so much about when a teacher does a poor job of how we get rid of them.  How about when a politician does a poor job?  We continue to allow them to keep their jobs and continue to do a poor job.  We need to develop the attitude of you have this term in office to do the job.  If you do, we will re-elect you.  If not, we will fire you and hire someone else.  I personally don&#8217;t care which political party you are, I care what kind of job will be done for us, not to us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said enough now and will probably be slammed for saying it.  Have a blessed and wonderful holiday season!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC mom is insane to think of no athletics.  The kids are so coddled and protected now.  Maybe we need a lawyer for every student to walk them to each class.  Some fringe lunatic might sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC mom is insane to think of no athletics.  The kids are so coddled and protected now.  Maybe we need a lawyer for every student to walk them to each class.  Some fringe lunatic might sue.</p>
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		<title>By: dcmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that I have shown more than enough courage in voicing my opinion on these blogs.  Even though the staff of the Enterprise Dispatch called me "harsh", I do not see much difference between the comments I made and those that were made previous to mine that caused me to write what I did.  They attacked what I considered to be a subject near and dear to me.  I responded with an issue that truly has bothered me for years.  This was an issue near and dear to the population that are against all athletics at the school.  I guess when you attack a segment of the population that is so large in the area, you can be expected to take some heat. 

I just don't understand why when that portion of the population is so large, they do not get their way.  Oh wait, they have gotten their way!  In the past few years, the extracurricular has taken repeated cuts to help balance the budget of the school.  But they would not know that, because their children do not participate.  So they do not know what the kids that do participate have had to sacrifice and the additional costs that have been passed on to the families.  From what I have been told, athletics will get nothing from this newly passed levy.  Therefore, this should not have even been an issue brought up on this blog regarding the levy.  Just as I should have never brought up the issue about the free lunch program.  The free lunch program will not change by the levy passing.  If anything, it will cause more people to use the program as their tax dollars drive them into more of a financial bind.  Perhaps that was the plan of the school all along.  The school does get more tax dollars if they have more students on the free lunch program.       

We will agree to disagree on the athletics vs. free lunch program and the TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT ON BOTH.  We just have different perspectives on these issues so no amount of typing can possibly resolve the issue.  I am set in my ways; as are those that disagree with me.

I found it ironic however that someone who admits to having their children on the FREE lunch program at school also has the funds to go out for an "occasional stop at a local restaurant for a bite to eat".  The last I checked, the meals are much cheaper at school then at any of the restaurants in these towns.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that I have shown more than enough courage in voicing my opinion on these blogs.  Even though the staff of the Enterprise Dispatch called me &#8220;harsh&#8221;, I do not see much difference between the comments I made and those that were made previous to mine that caused me to write what I did.  They attacked what I considered to be a subject near and dear to me.  I responded with an issue that truly has bothered me for years.  This was an issue near and dear to the population that are against all athletics at the school.  I guess when you attack a segment of the population that is so large in the area, you can be expected to take some heat. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand why when that portion of the population is so large, they do not get their way.  Oh wait, they have gotten their way!  In the past few years, the extracurricular has taken repeated cuts to help balance the budget of the school.  But they would not know that, because their children do not participate.  So they do not know what the kids that do participate have had to sacrifice and the additional costs that have been passed on to the families.  From what I have been told, athletics will get nothing from this newly passed levy.  Therefore, this should not have even been an issue brought up on this blog regarding the levy.  Just as I should have never brought up the issue about the free lunch program.  The free lunch program will not change by the levy passing.  If anything, it will cause more people to use the program as their tax dollars drive them into more of a financial bind.  Perhaps that was the plan of the school all along.  The school does get more tax dollars if they have more students on the free lunch program.       </p>
<p>We will agree to disagree on the athletics vs. free lunch program and the TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT ON BOTH.  We just have different perspectives on these issues so no amount of typing can possibly resolve the issue.  I am set in my ways; as are those that disagree with me.</p>
<p>I found it ironic however that someone who admits to having their children on the FREE lunch program at school also has the funds to go out for an &#8220;occasional stop at a local restaurant for a bite to eat&#8221;.  The last I checked, the meals are much cheaper at school then at any of the restaurants in these towns.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: dcgrad/resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcgrad/resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been on here before but was prompted to do so by this week's edition of the paper. Check out the blog it said on teacher negotiations. I am glad I did. Glad that dc mom and dcgrad/dad wrote in along with the others. What prompted me to look was how in the world can the teacher's expect to get a raise? Whether they took cuts in the past or not. Are we all not in it together? We will have to make cuts now to make room for the larger property taxes we will have to pay. Never has my taxes been what the projected increase shown before the vote for your house value! Who else works 184 days per year( taken from the published school calendar) and does not include snow days,vacation,sick days and leave of absences and makes the salary they do as a public servant. Ask the district once what is the teachers health care costs? While the general public is seeing it rise and rise. Some going without it. I  will not write what the amount is I would like the district to be flooded with calls on this and truth comes out. The proof will be in the pudding when results come in. But just wait--smaller class sizes???? Won't we be needing a new school soon? Here is another thought what if the school lets the hockey arena be put up on dc property....They have said it will cost the school district nothing. But what if in the future the arena can't make ends meet and ask the school to take it over. Just a thought.......... If you haven't figured out already I am proud I voted no and kids aren't always  smarter if you dump more money in year after year. Remember the levy passed and they can raise it in year's to come to keep up(as stated in the paper). Who makes that decision??? Why not have strict term limits on the school board members???? Force them out and someone else to step up.  I am surprised to hear a comment from a member of the newspaper staff on what others are writing in here being inappropriate/(harsh). The paper is slanted in one direction and it shows on a weekly basis. Why would anyone want to put your name in here when others don't respect your right to free speech unless you voted yes then you are a hero. People voting no aren't against kids they voted how they feel and what was best for them. They voted how they did with children going to that school and what the outcome might be for a no vote. Oh, here is another thing I am on the do not call list and still got called by the district on this prior to election. I have checked the guidelines and they did not meet them.They should have scrubbed the list prior to calling.Over 4 years ago a cokato resident donated 400,000 so kids in the area can play hockey in a arena. Now we are still without a arena and cannot meet matching funds. All he wanted was a place to skate for the kids and event center. But people got invoved  and it is still not built and money wasted. Call the district and tell them no you don't want it on school property. It is the only option for a arena in the two towns???? These are small towns and will always be small minded towns. We are getting to be a bedroom community( for those of you who don't know that is a town where most live but commute out for jobs and other things) and when that happens and you don't know everyone in town and who your neighbors are, Why care what happens to them.............. When businesses close and you are forced to shop elsewhere you don;t have that sense of small town anymore. Change is good... remember when Cokato and Dassel didn't have liquor stores and were the only two towns on us hwy 12 with that distinction? Well alot of people said the towns were going to hell............I'll end on that note. Glad I signed on and look forward to the feedback.. Because free speech is good..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been on here before but was prompted to do so by this week&#8217;s edition of the paper. Check out the blog it said on teacher negotiations. I am glad I did. Glad that dc mom and dcgrad/dad wrote in along with the others. What prompted me to look was how in the world can the teacher&#8217;s expect to get a raise? Whether they took cuts in the past or not. Are we all not in it together? We will have to make cuts now to make room for the larger property taxes we will have to pay. Never has my taxes been what the projected increase shown before the vote for your house value! Who else works 184 days per year( taken from the published school calendar) and does not include snow days,vacation,sick days and leave of absences and makes the salary they do as a public servant. Ask the district once what is the teachers health care costs? While the general public is seeing it rise and rise. Some going without it. I  will not write what the amount is I would like the district to be flooded with calls on this and truth comes out. The proof will be in the pudding when results come in. But just wait&#8211;smaller class sizes???? Won&#8217;t we be needing a new school soon? Here is another thought what if the school lets the hockey arena be put up on dc property&#8230;.They have said it will cost the school district nothing. But what if in the future the arena can&#8217;t make ends meet and ask the school to take it over. Just a thought&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. If you haven&#8217;t figured out already I am proud I voted no and kids aren&#8217;t always  smarter if you dump more money in year after year. Remember the levy passed and they can raise it in year&#8217;s to come to keep up(as stated in the paper). Who makes that decision??? Why not have strict term limits on the school board members???? Force them out and someone else to step up.  I am surprised to hear a comment from a member of the newspaper staff on what others are writing in here being inappropriate/(harsh). The paper is slanted in one direction and it shows on a weekly basis. Why would anyone want to put your name in here when others don&#8217;t respect your right to free speech unless you voted yes then you are a hero. People voting no aren&#8217;t against kids they voted how they feel and what was best for them. They voted how they did with children going to that school and what the outcome might be for a no vote. Oh, here is another thing I am on the do not call list and still got called by the district on this prior to election. I have checked the guidelines and they did not meet them.They should have scrubbed the list prior to calling.Over 4 years ago a cokato resident donated 400,000 so kids in the area can play hockey in a arena. Now we are still without a arena and cannot meet matching funds. All he wanted was a place to skate for the kids and event center. But people got invoved  and it is still not built and money wasted. Call the district and tell them no you don&#8217;t want it on school property. It is the only option for a arena in the two towns???? These are small towns and will always be small minded towns. We are getting to be a bedroom community( for those of you who don&#8217;t know that is a town where most live but commute out for jobs and other things) and when that happens and you don&#8217;t know everyone in town and who your neighbors are, Why care what happens to them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. When businesses close and you are forced to shop elsewhere you don;t have that sense of small town anymore. Change is good&#8230; remember when Cokato and Dassel didn&#8217;t have liquor stores and were the only two towns on us hwy 12 with that distinction? Well alot of people said the towns were going to hell&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;ll end on that note. Glad I signed on and look forward to the feedback.. Because free speech is good&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Cokato Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cokato Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dassel Grandma seems very level headed in her writings and quite contrite, why does dcmom have such a large amount of angry towards everyone, but "her kind?"  

My kids get free lunches in school and yes it is precisely because of how many kids I have!  I can guarantee to you that the amount I pay in property taxes far and away pays for this evil "social program."  I also guarantee you those with 2.1 kids are spending the money brought in by the larger families of 2.2 and above.

Also how quickly those with 2.1 kids forget about the sales taxes, social security taxes, increased local business revenue, and growth in the community such families provide (the  2.2 and above crowd).  Incidentally, does the dcmom  have the courage to mention who she is referencing in her big family comments?

For your information dcmom you have voted on your evil "social programs,"  by voting in your representatives who craft the laws and programs you live under!  Oh your one of those complainers of little action, or maybe your like the rest of us that are to busy working paying our $340 a month property tax bill, while buying groceries, diapers $1000 a month in health insurance (yea for private HMO's), keeping gas in the car, filling the propane tank, and maybe making the occasionally stop at one of our local restaurants for a bite to eat. 

I hate to turn this into a small vs. large family argument, but it is  these families funding this areas school, so how dare us question the  $800,000 spent on sports, how dare us be so greedy, so petty, so inconsiderate.  How dare we want the sport system to be setup as a user fee based system, how dare we try to limit the essential sport activities that teach our kids to balance a checkbook, properly manage credit, prepare for college, understand the taxation system, indeed how dare we.  

How dare someone with 10 kids ($80,000 in spending power) try to suggest to someone with 2 kids ($16,000 in spending power) how we should spend our tax money.

I agree, dcmom stop and think about how your well thought out arguments (which is nothing more than taking what everyone else has said and disagreeing)sound and read before pushing that mouse botton and displaying your nuggets of wisdom for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dassel Grandma seems very level headed in her writings and quite contrite, why does dcmom have such a large amount of angry towards everyone, but &#8220;her kind?&#8221;  </p>
<p>My kids get free lunches in school and yes it is precisely because of how many kids I have!  I can guarantee to you that the amount I pay in property taxes far and away pays for this evil &#8220;social program.&#8221;  I also guarantee you those with 2.1 kids are spending the money brought in by the larger families of 2.2 and above.</p>
<p>Also how quickly those with 2.1 kids forget about the sales taxes, social security taxes, increased local business revenue, and growth in the community such families provide (the  2.2 and above crowd).  Incidentally, does the dcmom  have the courage to mention who she is referencing in her big family comments?</p>
<p>For your information dcmom you have voted on your evil &#8220;social programs,&#8221;  by voting in your representatives who craft the laws and programs you live under!  Oh your one of those complainers of little action, or maybe your like the rest of us that are to busy working paying our $340 a month property tax bill, while buying groceries, diapers $1000 a month in health insurance (yea for private HMO&#8217;s), keeping gas in the car, filling the propane tank, and maybe making the occasionally stop at one of our local restaurants for a bite to eat. </p>
<p>I hate to turn this into a small vs. large family argument, but it is  these families funding this areas school, so how dare us question the  $800,000 spent on sports, how dare us be so greedy, so petty, so inconsiderate.  How dare we want the sport system to be setup as a user fee based system, how dare we try to limit the essential sport activities that teach our kids to balance a checkbook, properly manage credit, prepare for college, understand the taxation system, indeed how dare we.  </p>
<p>How dare someone with 10 kids ($80,000 in spending power) try to suggest to someone with 2 kids ($16,000 in spending power) how we should spend our tax money.</p>
<p>I agree, dcmom stop and think about how your well thought out arguments (which is nothing more than taking what everyone else has said and disagreeing)sound and read before pushing that mouse botton and displaying your nuggets of wisdom for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Dassel Grandma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dassel Grandma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are beginning to get way off the subject of the levy approval and the cost of education in the DC School District.  It shouldn't matter how many children from a single family attend the school district.  I thought our responsibility was to educate ALL children even if the child comes from a family of 10-15 kids.  Those 10-15 kids will bring in more $$ to the district - do the Math and do not criticize those families whose choice is to have many, many children.  Are their presence creating a burden on the Meeker County Social Service Department?  If so, that is another problem that should be addressed with the County officials and not the school district.  When I woke up this morning I thought I was in the U.S. and not China - they limit the number of children those families can have to one.  Comparing the number of children a family has and the number of activities/athletics provided by the school district doesn't make any sense at all, and I believe we have lost touch with reality if we go there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are beginning to get way off the subject of the levy approval and the cost of education in the DC School District.  It shouldn&#8217;t matter how many children from a single family attend the school district.  I thought our responsibility was to educate ALL children even if the child comes from a family of 10-15 kids.  Those 10-15 kids will bring in more $$ to the district - do the Math and do not criticize those families whose choice is to have many, many children.  Are their presence creating a burden on the Meeker County Social Service Department?  If so, that is another problem that should be addressed with the County officials and not the school district.  When I woke up this morning I thought I was in the U.S. and not China - they limit the number of children those families can have to one.  Comparing the number of children a family has and the number of activities/athletics provided by the school district doesn&#8217;t make any sense at all, and I believe we have lost touch with reality if we go there!!</p>
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		<title>By: dcmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since my last entry was so "politically incorrect", I suppose that this one won't even be allowed through moderation.  Heaven help me that I stepped on a particular portion of the public.  But isn't that what all these other people were doing when they wanted the athletics cut?  They were picking out one portion of the student body and saying that what is important to you does not matter to me, therefore it is wrong to want it and I am not going to pay for it.  What is different about my not wanting to have a child every year or two and not wanting to pay for someone else who does?  If they can pay for it themselves go for it!  

I am upset that my last posting was singled out as being "harsh".  What is so wrong with me voicing my opinion?  I thought we still had this thing in America called "FREEDOM OF SPEECH".  What makes you think that I did not think about what I was typing?  This issue has bothered me for years.  I can assure you that I did think long and hard before I wrote.  It just irritates me that there are people out there that want to single out the athletics at the school and target them for cuts and nothing else.  I think that there are lots of areas where my tax dollars are not spent wisely.  This just happens to be the one that bothers me the most.  
  
"Before you complain too much about free or reduced lunches please be advised that those figures are used by the Minnesota Department of Education when they figure out how much each school district will be getting from the State. So, the more free/reduced lunches DC provides, the more $$ the district will get from the State."

Who is "the State" and where does that money come from?  The taxpayers (ME AND YOU).  It just was not put on a levy question form. 

"And if you knew anything about this countryâ€™s tax system you would know that having many, many children gives you more exemptions when figuring out your income tax due and owing in April every year. I doubt that families with multiple children pay much in income tax since each exemption (child) reduces their total tax due and owing." 
"Large families just pay less in income taxes."

I believe that I understand that quite well thank you.  That is part of what I am complaining about.  Some of these families cannot afford to feed their children when they are at school.  They are relying on other taxpayers (Because as you pointed out they do not pay as much in income taxes) to take care of the costs of their children's meals while at school.  They even get two meals a day from the school if they desire, because they are fed both breakfast and lunch on "The State".  

NOW LET ME SAY THAT I KNOW THAT NOT ALL THE LARGE FAMILIES ARE IN THIS SITUATION.  There are LOTS of them can afford their children very easily.  I am not saying that they don't have the freedom to have as many children as they want.  I just think that they should be able to afford the children that they have. 

I believe that there is a time and a place for the free or reduced lunch program.  Anyone can fall on hard times and need a little help.  My family needed to use the service back when I was in school because my father was injured on the job and workers comp did not stretch far enough.  We used the service when we needed it, but as soon as my father was able to return to work, the service was no longer needed and we did not continue to recieve the meals. Even though my parents income met the guidelines to recieve the help!  I am talking about the families that use it ALL the time and rely on it.  It should be used in emergency cases as needed, not used year after year after year.  

"However, the real estate tax that supports our local school district doesnâ€™t care how many children you have. This is a regressive tax, and you pay according to the value of your home. So, if our families have a big house to provide shelter for their large family they pay accordingly to that value and not according to how many children are part of that family."  

I believe that is the fairest way to pay for your share of what the school needs.  Though I would argue that some of the families that use the services still live in fairly small moderately valued houses because that is what they have.

"However, I have found that large families also will be getting more financial aid in college, as will children of farmers and children of single parents, not to mention the minorities who also get a ton of financial aid. I hope that once DCâ€™s students get out from under DCâ€™s wing/protection that it wonâ€™t be too much of a shock as to what to expect in this wide, wide world. Everything comes with a price."

Unfortunately, you and I both agree on this point.  Isn't also ironic that we both work(ed) hard to provide for our families.  Then when our children could have used financial assistance in college, these same children that our tax payer dollars have been supporting; also recieve more assistance in going to college.  That is another bone to pick another time. 

I just believed that someone needed to point out that there are some things about the school that needs to be addressed.  I know that the school really, really wants to have as many families as possible on the lunch program.  Every year they ask EVERY family to fill out the forms to see if they qualify for the program.

AT LEAST THE VOTERS WERE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO VOTE ON IF THE LEVY PASSED.  NO ONE HAS EVER ALLOWED ME TO VOTE ON THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT THINK ARE SO GREAT! 
If they asked the voters maybe "The free ride would be over!!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since my last entry was so &#8220;politically incorrect&#8221;, I suppose that this one won&#8217;t even be allowed through moderation.  Heaven help me that I stepped on a particular portion of the public.  But isn&#8217;t that what all these other people were doing when they wanted the athletics cut?  They were picking out one portion of the student body and saying that what is important to you does not matter to me, therefore it is wrong to want it and I am not going to pay for it.  What is different about my not wanting to have a child every year or two and not wanting to pay for someone else who does?  If they can pay for it themselves go for it!  </p>
<p>I am upset that my last posting was singled out as being &#8220;harsh&#8221;.  What is so wrong with me voicing my opinion?  I thought we still had this thing in America called &#8220;FREEDOM OF SPEECH&#8221;.  What makes you think that I did not think about what I was typing?  This issue has bothered me for years.  I can assure you that I did think long and hard before I wrote.  It just irritates me that there are people out there that want to single out the athletics at the school and target them for cuts and nothing else.  I think that there are lots of areas where my tax dollars are not spent wisely.  This just happens to be the one that bothers me the most.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Before you complain too much about free or reduced lunches please be advised that those figures are used by the Minnesota Department of Education when they figure out how much each school district will be getting from the State. So, the more free/reduced lunches DC provides, the more $$ the district will get from the State.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who is &#8220;the State&#8221; and where does that money come from?  The taxpayers (ME AND YOU).  It just was not put on a levy question form. </p>
<p>&#8220;And if you knew anything about this countryâ€™s tax system you would know that having many, many children gives you more exemptions when figuring out your income tax due and owing in April every year. I doubt that families with multiple children pay much in income tax since each exemption (child) reduces their total tax due and owing.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Large families just pay less in income taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that I understand that quite well thank you.  That is part of what I am complaining about.  Some of these families cannot afford to feed their children when they are at school.  They are relying on other taxpayers (Because as you pointed out they do not pay as much in income taxes) to take care of the costs of their children&#8217;s meals while at school.  They even get two meals a day from the school if they desire, because they are fed both breakfast and lunch on &#8220;The State&#8221;.  </p>
<p>NOW LET ME SAY THAT I KNOW THAT NOT ALL THE LARGE FAMILIES ARE IN THIS SITUATION.  There are LOTS of them can afford their children very easily.  I am not saying that they don&#8217;t have the freedom to have as many children as they want.  I just think that they should be able to afford the children that they have. </p>
<p>I believe that there is a time and a place for the free or reduced lunch program.  Anyone can fall on hard times and need a little help.  My family needed to use the service back when I was in school because my father was injured on the job and workers comp did not stretch far enough.  We used the service when we needed it, but as soon as my father was able to return to work, the service was no longer needed and we did not continue to recieve the meals. Even though my parents income met the guidelines to recieve the help!  I am talking about the families that use it ALL the time and rely on it.  It should be used in emergency cases as needed, not used year after year after year.  </p>
<p>&#8220;However, the real estate tax that supports our local school district doesnâ€™t care how many children you have. This is a regressive tax, and you pay according to the value of your home. So, if our families have a big house to provide shelter for their large family they pay accordingly to that value and not according to how many children are part of that family.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I believe that is the fairest way to pay for your share of what the school needs.  Though I would argue that some of the families that use the services still live in fairly small moderately valued houses because that is what they have.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, I have found that large families also will be getting more financial aid in college, as will children of farmers and children of single parents, not to mention the minorities who also get a ton of financial aid. I hope that once DCâ€™s students get out from under DCâ€™s wing/protection that it wonâ€™t be too much of a shock as to what to expect in this wide, wide world. Everything comes with a price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you and I both agree on this point.  Isn&#8217;t also ironic that we both work(ed) hard to provide for our families.  Then when our children could have used financial assistance in college, these same children that our tax payer dollars have been supporting; also recieve more assistance in going to college.  That is another bone to pick another time. </p>
<p>I just believed that someone needed to point out that there are some things about the school that needs to be addressed.  I know that the school really, really wants to have as many families as possible on the lunch program.  Every year they ask EVERY family to fill out the forms to see if they qualify for the program.</p>
<p>AT LEAST THE VOTERS WERE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO VOTE ON IF THE LEVY PASSED.  NO ONE HAS EVER ALLOWED ME TO VOTE ON THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT THINK ARE SO GREAT!<br />
If they asked the voters maybe &#8220;The free ride would be over!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dassel Grandma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dassel Grandma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you complain too much about free or reduced lunches please be advised that those figures are used by the Minnesota Department of Education when they figure out how much each school district will be getting from the State.  So, the more free/reduced lunches DC provides, the more $$ the district will get from the State. And if you knew anything about this country's tax system you would know that having many, many children gives you more exemptions when figuring out your income tax due and owing in April every year.  I doubt that families with multiple children pay much in income tax since each exemption (child) reduces their total tax due and owing.  However, the real estate tax that supports our local school district doesn't care how many children you have.   This is a regressive tax, and you pay according to the value of your home.  So, if our families have a big house to provide shelter for their large family they pay accordingly to that value and not according to how many children are part of that family.  So, do not attack families who chose to have many children.  That is their choice, and as a society we must respect that choice.  Large families just pay less in income taxes.  Personally, I wanted to provide more for our family and we only had three children.  However, I have found that large families also will be getting more financial aid in college, as will children of farmers and children of single parents, not to mention the minorities who also get a ton of financial aid.  I hope that once DC's students get out from under DC's wing/protection that it won't be too much of a shock as to what to expect in this wide, wide world.  Everything comes with a price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you complain too much about free or reduced lunches please be advised that those figures are used by the Minnesota Department of Education when they figure out how much each school district will be getting from the State.  So, the more free/reduced lunches DC provides, the more $$ the district will get from the State. And if you knew anything about this country&#8217;s tax system you would know that having many, many children gives you more exemptions when figuring out your income tax due and owing in April every year.  I doubt that families with multiple children pay much in income tax since each exemption (child) reduces their total tax due and owing.  However, the real estate tax that supports our local school district doesn&#8217;t care how many children you have.   This is a regressive tax, and you pay according to the value of your home.  So, if our families have a big house to provide shelter for their large family they pay accordingly to that value and not according to how many children are part of that family.  So, do not attack families who chose to have many children.  That is their choice, and as a society we must respect that choice.  Large families just pay less in income taxes.  Personally, I wanted to provide more for our family and we only had three children.  However, I have found that large families also will be getting more financial aid in college, as will children of farmers and children of single parents, not to mention the minorities who also get a ton of financial aid.  I hope that once DC&#8217;s students get out from under DC&#8217;s wing/protection that it won&#8217;t be too much of a shock as to what to expect in this wide, wide world.  Everything comes with a price.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was harsh. Remember to think before you type.</description>
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		<title>By: dcmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way I get the impression, (and I could be wrong) that many of the people that are posting the negative comments about the school levy are for the most part the people that have or did have multiple children in this district or have home schooled their children. These are the same people that after they have all these children, they then complain that they cannot afford to pay the taxes to support the schools that they have a student in almost every grade in.  Oh, I am sorry, they don't have a problem with purchasing books----they just don't want to have any sports facilities because their children don't participate in sports or other extra curricular activities.

Get a grip---I am tired of my tax dollars going to pay for the free or reduced priced meals for the families in this district that have so many children that they cannot afford to pay for the children's lunch.  Who do you think is paying for those lunches?  It isn't the parents, they have so many deductions on their taxes that they probably get more money back then what they paid in for taxes.  When this district is not full of those families and my tax dollars stop going to pay for that stuff then we can discuss whether we should continue to offer extracurricular activities for the students that want to participate.

The things that are taxes are being spent on everyone can find a pet peeve.  I have accepted that I will be feeding these children my entire life.....even if I cannot afford to pay to put food on my families table.  I don't have enough children to abuse the system myself.  I wanted to be able to support the children that I had.  That included their schooling as well as providing food and clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way I get the impression, (and I could be wrong) that many of the people that are posting the negative comments about the school levy are for the most part the people that have or did have multiple children in this district or have home schooled their children. These are the same people that after they have all these children, they then complain that they cannot afford to pay the taxes to support the schools that they have a student in almost every grade in.  Oh, I am sorry, they don&#8217;t have a problem with purchasing books&#8212;-they just don&#8217;t want to have any sports facilities because their children don&#8217;t participate in sports or other extra curricular activities.</p>
<p>Get a grip&#8212;I am tired of my tax dollars going to pay for the free or reduced priced meals for the families in this district that have so many children that they cannot afford to pay for the children&#8217;s lunch.  Who do you think is paying for those lunches?  It isn&#8217;t the parents, they have so many deductions on their taxes that they probably get more money back then what they paid in for taxes.  When this district is not full of those families and my tax dollars stop going to pay for that stuff then we can discuss whether we should continue to offer extracurricular activities for the students that want to participate.</p>
<p>The things that are taxes are being spent on everyone can find a pet peeve.  I have accepted that I will be feeding these children my entire life&#8230;..even if I cannot afford to pay to put food on my families table.  I don&#8217;t have enough children to abuse the system myself.  I wanted to be able to support the children that I had.  That included their schooling as well as providing food and clothing.</p>
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